November 30, 2010

Orton Vs Tebow - The Debate

Kyle Orton at a glance
6ft 4in and 225 lbs, age: 28 years.

A sixth-year quarterback whose .604 career winning percentage (29-19) as a starter with Denver (2009) and Chicago (2005-08) is the eighth-best figure in the NFL among active players and includes a .792 mark (19-5) at home that ranks third in the league among current players.

Owns a 39-to-3 career touchdown-to-interception ratio (13.0) in the red zone for his career that ranks fifth in the league among active players.

Set personal bests in nearly every statistical category with the Broncos in 2009, totaling the most passing yards by a player in his first year with the club in team history with a career-high 3,802 yards that ranked sixth among all players in franchise annals.

Registered 10 games with a passer rating of at least 90.0 with Denver in 2009, tying a club single-season record (T-5th in NFL for the year), while being intercepted on just 2.2 percent (12-of-541) of his passes for the third-lowest rate in team history (6th in NFL for the year).

Opened his Broncos career in 2009 by leading the team to six consecutive wins, which tied for the second-longest streak by a quarterback in his first year with a new team to begin a season since the 1970 NFL merger.

Tim Tebow at a glance
6ft 3in and 245lbs, age: 23 years.

A quarterback who became one of the most decorated players in college football history at the University of Florida, where he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy for three consecutive years (won the award in 2007) and was part of two national championship teams (2006, ‘08).

Set an NCAA record with a 170.8 career passing efficiency (661-995, 9,285 yds., 88 TDs, 16 INTs) and led the Gators to a 35-6 record as a starter while three times earning first-team All-SEC honors.

Set SEC career records for total offense (12,232 yds.), rushing touchdowns (57) and touchdown responsibility (145) in addition to becoming just the second player in college football history to win consecutive Maxwell Awards (2007-08) as the nation’s best player.

Became the first player in NCAA history to pass and rush for at least 20 touchdowns in a season as the first-ever sophomore winner of the Heisman Trophy in 2007.

Set several state career records, including passing yards (9,940) and touchdowns (159), and was a Parade All-American at Nease High School in Jacksonville, Fla.

Selected by the Broncos in the first round (25th overall) of the 2010 NFL Draft.

2010 Season
Over the first 11 games of the season Orton has amassed impressive statistics, they are below.

Season Team Games Passing Sacks Rushing
GP GS W-L Comp Att Pct Yds Y/Att TD INT Rating # Yds Att Yds Avg TD
2010Denver Broncos 11 11 3-8 265 429 61.8 3,370 7.9 20 6 96.0 29 202 20 93 4.6 0

Orton is having a great season so far statistically, though we haven't been able to get many wins. It is interesting to note that Orton has been sacked 29 times through 11 games, Orton was sacked only 29 times all last year.

Tebow over the first 11 games has been used sparingly and mostly in goal line situations. His stats are below:

Season Team Games Passing Sacks Rushing Fumbles
GP GS W-L Comp Att Pct Yds Y/Att TD INT Rating # Yds Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
2010 Denver Broncos 5 0 0-0 1 1 100.0 3 3.0 1 0 118.8 0 0 12 28 2.3 3 0 0

Tebow has been effective in goal line situations but has not done much else where on the field.

The Record 
The record so far for the Broncos isn't good. They have only won 3 games this year and lost 8 and are pretty much assured not to make the playoffs. That being said is it Tebow time? Time for something new? Lets take I look at some of the reasons for and against the swap.

The reasons for the (Tebow) change:
  • Brings a spark (a change of coach sometimes does, why not a QB?
  • He is the (meant to be) future
  • 3rd downs - against the Rams we were 1-10 (i think) on first downs. With Tebow we know he will do everything to get that first down, even using his legs.
  • Tebow needs to get experience in the system, a year in the system did wonders for Orton.
  • Tebow needs to take his licks now (experience the game) so he is prepared for next season and doesn't make those rookie mistakes next year.
  • We may win more games.
  • We need to know if he has something. Or if McD made (another) mistake.
The reasons against:
  • Tebow suffers a career injury (or mentally, you know gets sacked to much and never recovers)
  • We could lose the rest of the games with Tebow at the helm.
  • Orton has been offered a fat (8 mil) contract for next year.
  • Orton has been playing well, he has to start winning soon.
  • Orton has the locker room and is the guy.
  • Orton has the chemistry with the receivers.
 Well that is what I have been thinking so far, let the debate rain and lets hear your views ~ Aussie Out!


  1. Just for laughs

  2. Its a 'Catch 22' the Bronco fans find themselves endlessly discussing at the moment. Tebow's potential is enormous based on his personality, work ethic and college career, but does that potential actually translate to NFL success? We don't know unless we start him, BUT we can't start him because we don't know how good he'll be.

    The few glimpes we have had of Tebow thus far has been good in context, a team can only find out one way if he truly has the goods. At this point in time I have only one issue with Orton, and thats his in inability to get rid of the ball in pressure situations. I don't know if thats been ingrained into him to minimise INTs is to just take the sack. Other than that, he's been awesome.

    Its 2006 all over agian Plummer & Cutler now Orton & Tebow.

    I feel that we need to keep Orton at the helm till at least the end of the season. The issue is not at QB but across the whole team and changing one player won't change that unless there is an internal personality clash. Tebow is not Sparticus! lol

    LOL Poor Brady Quinn must be thinking 'So you traded for me WHY??'

  3. For those of us that want a few more answers here they are:

  4. Another reason to play Tebow would be if he wins a few games then it may just save McD's job.

  5. Yeah Samoan, I know, sometimes I scream at the TV, release the damn ball, then he tries to run (walk) to get away which is never pretty.

    Plummer and Cutler was a little different, Shanny wanted to start cutler so bad, was in love with him and was anger I believe at Plummer. So he benched Plummer for Cutler when they had, i think, 7-4 record.

    Tebow may not be Spartacus (love that show) but he could be the Mile High Messiah!